Comments on: Say It Ain’t so, Joe http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/ Moving Together, Faster Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:48:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Miami 21 – Round 2 | Best Miami News http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-65413 Miami 21 – Round 2 | Best Miami News Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:25:12 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-65413 [...] into a bittersweet stalemate when one of the up-to-then supporters, Commissioner Joe Sanchez, voted “No” on the plan, achieving a 2-2 result (the fifth City Commissioner was undergoing surgery that day), citing weak [...] [...] into a bittersweet stalemate when one of the up-to-then supporters, Commissioner Joe Sanchez, voted “No” on the plan, achieving a 2-2 result (the fifth City Commissioner was undergoing surgery that day), citing weak [...]

]]> By: Miami 21 – Round 2 | Miami Metblogs http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-65365 Miami 21 – Round 2 | Miami Metblogs Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:32:16 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-65365 [...] into a bittersweet stalemate when one of the up-to-then supporters, Commissioner Joe Sanchez, voted “No” on the plan, achieving a 2-2 result (the fifth City Commissioner was undergoing surgery that day), citing weak [...] [...] into a bittersweet stalemate when one of the up-to-then supporters, Commissioner Joe Sanchez, voted “No” on the plan, achieving a 2-2 result (the fifth City Commissioner was undergoing surgery that day), citing weak [...]

]]> By: Tony Garcia http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-61129 Tony Garcia Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:39:05 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-61129 Maybe voting down Sarnoff's changes was the right move, but he could have very easily made another motion (after his no vote) to approve the code without the changes that Sarnoff proposed. That would have been a 2-2 vote with Sanchez and Spence-Jones voting yes, and Regalado and Sarnoff voting no. Why did he choose to take the political heat if Sarnoff was in the wrong? Doesn't add up in my head. or... He could have just voted to approve and addressed the changes between first and second reading. Watch the last moments of the meeting. He looks like he thought there was another motion, and only moments before he had been discussing the changes that needed to be made/issues to be addressed before second reading. It looks like he simply made a mistake. Maybe voting down Sarnoff’s changes was the right move, but he could have very easily made another motion (after his no vote) to approve the code without the changes that Sarnoff proposed. That would have been a 2-2 vote with Sanchez and Spence-Jones voting yes, and Regalado and Sarnoff voting no. Why did he choose to take the political heat if Sarnoff was in the wrong? Doesn’t add up in my head.

or…

He could have just voted to approve and addressed the changes between first and second reading. Watch the last moments of the meeting.

He looks like he thought there was another motion, and only moments before he had been discussing the changes that needed to be made/issues to be addressed before second reading. It looks like he simply made a mistake.

]]> By: anon http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-61128 anon Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:11:02 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-61128 Unlike the sneaky and petulant Sarnoff, Sanchez did the right thing. Unlike the sneaky and petulant Sarnoff, Sanchez did the right thing.

]]> By: anon http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-61127 anon Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:09:26 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-61127 Look Sanchez did the right thing by voting it down. What Sarnoff did was unbelievable with all of those poison pills he proferred. And Gonzalez missing the vote is inexcusable. Joe simply did not want to put the City at financial risk. In addition, he requested the vote be deferred but Mayor Diaz said no. Maybe Joe should of not voted like AG or like the County Commission when recently they decided not to vote on the millage rate. Look Sanchez did the right thing by voting it down. What Sarnoff did was unbelievable with all of those poison pills he proferred. And Gonzalez missing the vote is inexcusable. Joe simply did not want to put the City at financial risk. In addition, he requested the vote be deferred but Mayor Diaz said no. Maybe Joe should of not voted like AG or like the County Commission when recently they decided not to vote on the millage rate.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-60975 Anonymous Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:03:41 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-60975 To the Anon at 2:34 One of the things Sarnoff added was a height restriction. In the historical district of MiMo To the Anon at 2:34
One of the things Sarnoff added was a height restriction. In the historical district of MiMo

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-60934 Anonymous Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:34:04 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-60934 My understanding is that Sarnoff attempted to add in language at the last second that would have exepmted his area from the Miami 21 height requirements on Biscayne, and Sanchexz' no vote was predicated upon that portion. My understanding is that Sarnoff attempted to add in language at the last second that would have exepmted his area from the Miami 21 height requirements on Biscayne, and Sanchexz’ no vote was predicated upon that portion.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-60933 Anonymous Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:31:12 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-60933 Please send this to the commissioner and to steven wright. I think the commissioner really believes this stuff that is written for him. He let us down. End of story. Please send this to the commissioner and to steven wright. I think the commissioner really believes this stuff that is written for him. He let us down. End of story.

]]> By: transit friend http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-60911 transit friend Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:24:55 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-60911 I invite everyone to come out Aug 26th to the Transit Forum at Capital Grille 6pm. Until we have transit we will not have a real city. I invite everyone to come out Aug 26th to the Transit Forum at Capital Grille 6pm. Until we have transit we will not have a real city.

]]> By: TM http://www.transitmiami.com/2009/08/10/post-script-miami-21/comment-page-1/#comment-60909 TM Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:11:46 +0000 http://www.transitmiami.com/?p=4526#comment-60909 I think WOW was the best response! What a fiasco... there is plenty of blame to go around- Sarnoff pilling on sweets for his district, Sanchez looking befuddled and confused failing to suggest an alternative motion, the administration failing to suggest the item be continued until a full commission could decide (even after the first vote). WOW, WOW, WOW I think WOW was the best response! What a fiasco… there is plenty of blame to go around- Sarnoff pilling on sweets for his district, Sanchez looking befuddled and confused failing to suggest an alternative motion, the administration failing to suggest the item be continued until a full commission could decide (even after the first vote). WOW, WOW, WOW

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