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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6528</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 07:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read similar article also named &#124; Transit Miami, and it was completely different. Personally, I agree with you more, because this article makes a little bit more sense for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read similar article also named | Transit Miami, and it was completely different. Personally, I agree with you more, because this article makes a little bit more sense for me</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sharp</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6411</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think Steven does an excellent job articulating the transit niche Bay Link would serve, I think it's important that as transit advocates we don't get caught up bickering over which mode we like the best. The sad  reality is that there's only a handful of transit projects in Miami-Dade that have made it to the advanced planning stages in recent years, and I think it's critical that we support all of them. 

Making constructive points about how each of the proposed projects would function the best (e.g. route alignment, station location, urban design, funding strategies, etc) is something I'd rather focus on at this juncture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think Steven does an excellent job articulating the transit niche Bay Link would serve, I think it&#8217;s important that as transit advocates we don&#8217;t get caught up bickering over which mode we like the best. The sad  reality is that there&#8217;s only a handful of transit projects in Miami-Dade that have made it to the advanced planning stages in recent years, and I think it&#8217;s critical that we support all of them. </p>
<p>Making constructive points about how each of the proposed projects would function the best (e.g. route alignment, station location, urban design, funding strategies, etc) is something I&#8217;d rather focus on at this juncture.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6404</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no offense taken, baylink street cars, or metro rail just build!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no offense taken, baylink street cars, or metro rail just build!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6403</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to Steven's post about the metrorail on Kendall Dr: The situation with the metrorail down kendall dr and the baylink are actually identical. Remember that Baylink was opposed by the local neighborhood groups and homeowners associations and professional commission meeting attenders (can't think of anything else to call them). They were able to delay the project until it got dropped by the county, once it was basically dead they relented and allowed a vote on the issue and of course the actual people of Miami Beach overwelmingly supported Baylink. The metrorail in Kendall is the same thing, the vast majority of residents want it but those who speak loudest do not want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to Steven&#8217;s post about the metrorail on Kendall Dr: The situation with the metrorail down kendall dr and the baylink are actually identical. Remember that Baylink was opposed by the local neighborhood groups and homeowners associations and professional commission meeting attenders (can&#8217;t think of anything else to call them). They were able to delay the project until it got dropped by the county, once it was basically dead they relented and allowed a vote on the issue and of course the actual people of Miami Beach overwelmingly supported Baylink. The metrorail in Kendall is the same thing, the vast majority of residents want it but those who speak loudest do not want it.</p>
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		<title>By: TransitDave</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6402</link>
		<dc:creator>TransitDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don't misunderstand me, I like streetcars and light rail systems, in their proper environments. (see my article on London's DLR)

I just feel strongly that, with the very limited resources available for new transit projects in Miami Dade, we need the projects that will move the most people, the quickest from point A to point B. And, I strongly believe that the Miami streetcar and Baylink would be a poor substitutes for Metrorail, and would represent only marginal improvements over the bus service in place today. 

It's about setting prioities, and the leadership of MD county has a dismal track record where transit is concerned. That should be the focus, getting our political leaders to MAKE building a world-class metro system a top priority. Then, and only then, will we start to see progress. The first step is a 30 year plan to build a county wide metrorail system, with the Orange line being first priority, with the next project (say the south corridor) in the planning pipeline should there be any delays in building the Orange line.

Looking ahead for a moment,surely the rising cost of fuel will create some action from the federal government to increase Federal funding for mass transit, just as happended in the 1970's.

The question is, will Miami-Dade be positioned to take advantage of this opportunity, or will we have no coherent plan to build our metro system? Other cities surely will be ready to take the funding we lose out on, which is why there needs to be a plan in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t misunderstand me, I like streetcars and light rail systems, in their proper environments. (see my article on London&#8217;s DLR)</p>
<p>I just feel strongly that, with the very limited resources available for new transit projects in Miami Dade, we need the projects that will move the most people, the quickest from point A to point B. And, I strongly believe that the Miami streetcar and Baylink would be a poor substitutes for Metrorail, and would represent only marginal improvements over the bus service in place today. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about setting prioities, and the leadership of MD county has a dismal track record where transit is concerned. That should be the focus, getting our political leaders to MAKE building a world-class metro system a top priority. Then, and only then, will we start to see progress. The first step is a 30 year plan to build a county wide metrorail system, with the Orange line being first priority, with the next project (say the south corridor) in the planning pipeline should there be any delays in building the Orange line.</p>
<p>Looking ahead for a moment,surely the rising cost of fuel will create some action from the federal government to increase Federal funding for mass transit, just as happended in the 1970&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The question is, will Miami-Dade be positioned to take advantage of this opportunity, or will we have no coherent plan to build our metro system? Other cities surely will be ready to take the funding we lose out on, which is why there needs to be a plan in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6400</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree completely with the above poster, Eliot. The concept that a streetcar is some old-fashioned looking crappy art deco bus decorated with possible wire hangers is the clarion call for those uninformed about streetcars. They are a modern transit type that is prevelant throughout Europe and is starting to become prevelant throughout the United States as well. 

With regard to Baylink, the idea is that the system would operate within traffic through downtown Miami and through South Beach, but would have its own right-of-way for the trip between the two locations. A metrorail extension to Miami Beach is not only impractical (making a 90-degree turn for example would take up almost half the width of South Beach) but overly expensive. Not only does Baylink scale down a lot of the property demands, it offers a greater chance for expandability in the future, both because of the relatively inexpensive nature and because of the flexibility the platform offers.

Just so this is not a completely negative post directed towards Eliot, I do agree that this site could be a unifying force in the fight against not only poorly run transit agencies, but poor planning as well. I also agree that the problem is awareness in Miami. Of all the people I have spoken with, 99% want metrorail to go down Kendall drive, but only a handfull of those people could actually make it to any of the meetings to voice their concerns. The end result of that was a league of homeowners associations shut down the idea because it didn't mesh with the ideas of a handful of people. I do feel that Miamians can see the 1-2 inches ahead of them, I just feel that the county commission gets distracted by the developers dangling the money off to the side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree completely with the above poster, Eliot. The concept that a streetcar is some old-fashioned looking crappy art deco bus decorated with possible wire hangers is the clarion call for those uninformed about streetcars. They are a modern transit type that is prevelant throughout Europe and is starting to become prevelant throughout the United States as well. </p>
<p>With regard to Baylink, the idea is that the system would operate within traffic through downtown Miami and through South Beach, but would have its own right-of-way for the trip between the two locations. A metrorail extension to Miami Beach is not only impractical (making a 90-degree turn for example would take up almost half the width of South Beach) but overly expensive. Not only does Baylink scale down a lot of the property demands, it offers a greater chance for expandability in the future, both because of the relatively inexpensive nature and because of the flexibility the platform offers.</p>
<p>Just so this is not a completely negative post directed towards Eliot, I do agree that this site could be a unifying force in the fight against not only poorly run transit agencies, but poor planning as well. I also agree that the problem is awareness in Miami. Of all the people I have spoken with, 99% want metrorail to go down Kendall drive, but only a handfull of those people could actually make it to any of the meetings to voice their concerns. The end result of that was a league of homeowners associations shut down the idea because it didn&#8217;t mesh with the ideas of a handful of people. I do feel that Miamians can see the 1-2 inches ahead of them, I just feel that the county commission gets distracted by the developers dangling the money off to the side.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6399</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting this weekend I've seen very few places where premium is UNDER $4 a gallon. I've seen several where mid-grade is now at or above $4 in Kendall. Don't know what happened to make prices jump so high this weekend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting this weekend I&#8217;ve seen very few places where premium is UNDER $4 a gallon. I&#8217;ve seen several where mid-grade is now at or above $4 in Kendall. Don&#8217;t know what happened to make prices jump so high this weekend?</p>
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		<title>By: National Bike to Work Week &#124; Transit Miami</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6395</link>
		<dc:creator>National Bike to Work Week &#124; Transit Miami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] site here. But most important of all, get on your bicycle this week and rest easy about the near $4/gallon gas prices because you won&#8217;t need to fill up as soon. Take that, Big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] site here. But most important of all, get on your bicycle this week and rest easy about the near $4/gallon gas prices because you won&#8217;t need to fill up as soon. Take that, Big [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/05/09/my-first-400-gas-sighting/#comment-6394</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Transit Miami,

I also agree with Dave's point of view on this issue. I never liked the idea of the Bay Link street cars. I feel as if though it is more of an artistic choice than an efficient transit choice. Riding from downtown miami to miami beach on metro rail seems more efficient (as dave has pointed out) than riding in some crappy historic looking art deco bus decorated with possible wire hangers. 

     Even if they argued that the bay link would have it's own empty separate lane to use i would still be against it. 

as for Miamian's not thinking 1 - 2 inches ahead of themselves... I disagree with the idea that Miamian’s are so blind that they can’t see 1-2 inches of foresight in front of themselves. Instead, I blame the lack of overall awareness that people have about mass transit in general, and the mass transit problems in Miami. I continue to believe that this site has so much potential power in creating awareness, and action towards the metrorails of tomorrow. I am always spreading the link out to people that I come across, maybe targeting the people who stand on the metro-rail station platforms would help unify a community of people who want to see mass transit flourish in Miami. 

Create awareness, unite, and make those in charge listen to us seems like a better plan for Miami than watching it slowly rot in a poorly run mass transit system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Transit Miami,</p>
<p>I also agree with Dave&#8217;s point of view on this issue. I never liked the idea of the Bay Link street cars. I feel as if though it is more of an artistic choice than an efficient transit choice. Riding from downtown miami to miami beach on metro rail seems more efficient (as dave has pointed out) than riding in some crappy historic looking art deco bus decorated with possible wire hangers. </p>
<p>     Even if they argued that the bay link would have it&#8217;s own empty separate lane to use i would still be against it. </p>
<p>as for Miamian&#8217;s not thinking 1 - 2 inches ahead of themselves&#8230; I disagree with the idea that Miamian’s are so blind that they can’t see 1-2 inches of foresight in front of themselves. Instead, I blame the lack of overall awareness that people have about mass transit in general, and the mass transit problems in Miami. I continue to believe that this site has so much potential power in creating awareness, and action towards the metrorails of tomorrow. I am always spreading the link out to people that I come across, maybe targeting the people who stand on the metro-rail station platforms would help unify a community of people who want to see mass transit flourish in Miami. </p>
<p>Create awareness, unite, and make those in charge listen to us seems like a better plan for Miami than watching it slowly rot in a poorly run mass transit system.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Heavy Rail is preferable in an ideal world, but I think gas is going to have to reach more like $6/gallon before we even consider more funding for even light rail. Also, because our citizens seem to have about 1-2 inches of foresight, I can imagine all gasoline taxes being repealed more easily than I can any transit funding being approved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Heavy Rail is preferable in an ideal world, but I think gas is going to have to reach more like $6/gallon before we even consider more funding for even light rail. Also, because our citizens seem to have about 1-2 inches of foresight, I can imagine all gasoline taxes being repealed more easily than I can any transit funding being approved.</p>
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