Comments on: Miami’s Urban Development Boundary Crisis

By: school improvement plans

school improvement plans — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:46:05 +0000

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By: CR

CR — Thu, 01 May 2008 00:48:12 +0000

Boycott Lowes

By: Tony Garcia

Tony Garcia — Thu, 01 May 2008 00:01:09 +0000

Kodor. I think that maybe you are confused about what hold the line really means. All of the good planning we regularly talk about still applies, and is exactly how we make the hold the line argument. We don’t need to go west if we build around transit. The hold the line argument is about how far west we want our city services to extend. and what that means to our urban centers.

By: Kordor

Kordor — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:04:44 +0000

“The next round of UDB applications?” Why isn’t anyone trying to stop this fight once and for all? The line is irrelevant. The real question is what will development eventually look like inside and outside the line? High denisty urban everywhere inside the line, and one house per five acres over 400 sq miles outside the line? What about planned corridors of density, infrastructure, and transit, regardless of some imaginary line? Villages like in the Dutch or English countryside? Where is the vision?!

While everyone wastes their energy fighting about a line, another year of bad development happens, both inside and outside the line. It’s like with the stupid Hometown Democracy folks: they want to cling to existing land use regulations, but what’s so great about existing land use regulations?! Most of Florida is zoned based on failed ideas. Sometimes I think “concerned citizens” like to fight about “holding the line” to distract everyone from the need to put high density TOD near their home in Coral Gables.

By: Tony Garcia

Tony Garcia — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:34:30 +0000

There are several options on the table now. Mayor Alvarez will veto the decision, but if the vote continues along the same lines (9-4) then the super-majority will override the veto. The only remaining recourse is to take the decision to court where its anyone’s ballgame. The importance of this battle lies with the precedent it sets up for the next round of UDB applications in two years. The more protracted and politically exhausting these applications become, the less likely developers will be to continue to push and politicians will be to touch the UDB issue.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:19:57 +0000

I agree with you guys 100% and I support your battle against them. Hopefully, it’s not to late to reverse their action. It’s not final yet, is it?

By: Kordor

Kordor — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:08:20 +0000

Aah, the annual UDB fight. Has no one thought of a long-term, win-win solution? Oh, Rural Land Stewardship, adopted by law or policy in many Florida counties. Farmers sell their development rights, developers move the rights to more appropriate places, and the county is actually forced to do real long-term planning to determine “receiving areas” that are corridors of higher density, transit, and infrastructure. Read:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-167419351.html

By: Jorge Lopez

Jorge Lopez — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:15:31 +0000

Is there anyone that the common citizen can reach out to to let the commissioners know that we’re against this?

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:07:07 +0000

This is one of the stupidist things that the m-d commissioners have ever voted for. Please is there really no where else to put those buildings then outside the UDB? Do we really need a new high school? when there are plenty of county school that are under utilize. On one hearing they where say that if you planed it right you could build a Lowes inside the UDB. It would take time and good planing which some off the commissioners most likely don’t want to deal with. It will be just easier for them to put outside the UDB. But on a lighter note I do congratulate the commissioners that did reject the vote especially Mayor Alvarez for aleast trying to get his veto to go through.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:40:25 +0000

Plus there is no plan for a school. Dade County schools has said several times that they don’t want or need a high school in that location (plus the schools own rules against building outside the UDB). Plus the developer isn’t even providing anything for the school but rather is offerring to sell land to the County for a school. So unless some private entity comes along and builds a private school there, there will be no school.