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	<title>Comments on: Critical Miami Misses the Point</title>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/04/03/critical-miami-misses-the-point/#comment-6201</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is so much fantasy in both the article and many comments here I feel I have to interject.  Reducing parking in homes or commercial spaces in the downtown area is a guarentee of more vacant downtown buildings and an utter failure in these areas achieving critical mass.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;NO ONE is going to buy an apartment with out parking in downtown Miami.  Unlike SoBe where kiddies buy studios without parking because they can work (usually not at all) and party locally.  The grown ups who live and work downtown rarely do both and rarely can consider their life's without some amount of travel.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I live downtown and work from home.  I have a car and use the metro mover and frequently go whole days without using my car.  On the other hand, there are MANY days when I need it since Miami (and the region) is fundamentally not dense outside the corridor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Downtown is only on the cusp of achieving the critical mass of succeeding as a downtown urban core area.  If you have ever been in the Flagler area on a weeknight, you can CLEARLY see that we aren't quite there yet.  Eliminating cars would create a huge loss of revenue for the building owners as commercial rents will be lower (less business) and in residents, the market will be much smaller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much fantasy in both the article and many comments here I feel I have to interject.  Reducing parking in homes or commercial spaces in the downtown area is a guarentee of more vacant downtown buildings and an utter failure in these areas achieving critical mass.</p>
<p>NO ONE is going to buy an apartment with out parking in downtown Miami.  Unlike SoBe where kiddies buy studios without parking because they can work (usually not at all) and party locally.  The grown ups who live and work downtown rarely do both and rarely can consider their life&#8217;s without some amount of travel.  </p>
<p>I live downtown and work from home.  I have a car and use the metro mover and frequently go whole days without using my car.  On the other hand, there are MANY days when I need it since Miami (and the region) is fundamentally not dense outside the corridor.</p>
<p>Downtown is only on the cusp of achieving the critical mass of succeeding as a downtown urban core area.  If you have ever been in the Flagler area on a weeknight, you can CLEARLY see that we aren&#8217;t quite there yet.  Eliminating cars would create a huge loss of revenue for the building owners as commercial rents will be lower (less business) and in residents, the market will be much smaller.</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe Azenha</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/04/03/critical-miami-misses-the-point/#comment-6190</link>
		<dc:creator>Felipe Azenha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also share the same future vision as Transit Miami and truly enjoy reading your blog on a daily basis. Unfortunately, I remain skeptical if Miami and Miami Beach truly want to grow-up and become a world class city. I would like to share a personal experience of mine.&lt;br/&gt;For the past 5 years I have personally lobbied the Mayor(s) and Commissioners of Miami Beach to establish a pedicab business on South Beach.  It is intuitively obvious that such a business would serve as an integral part of a larger intermodal transportation strategy.  Miami Beach is densely populated, flat, and the distances which are usually travelled are very short; generally less then two miles.  In addition, these vehicles produce no CO2.  &lt;br/&gt;One would think that the Miami Beach administration would embrace such an efficient and environmentally friendly form of transportation. This is not the case. For some reason or other the city of Miami Beach believes that pedicabs pose a risk to public’s safety. &lt;br/&gt;I sincerely hope that through forms like this, we can get a critical mass of young, visionary, and intelligent residents together to prove to our city administrators that we can do better and create a more livable city that will attract people and businesses alike. Transportation plays central part to the livability of any city.  Hopefully we can get our Public Official to see this before our city, which we love so much, comes to a complete standstill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also share the same future vision as Transit Miami and truly enjoy reading your blog on a daily basis. Unfortunately, I remain skeptical if Miami and Miami Beach truly want to grow-up and become a world class city. I would like to share a personal experience of mine.<br />For the past 5 years I have personally lobbied the Mayor(s) and Commissioners of Miami Beach to establish a pedicab business on South Beach.  It is intuitively obvious that such a business would serve as an integral part of a larger intermodal transportation strategy.  Miami Beach is densely populated, flat, and the distances which are usually travelled are very short; generally less then two miles.  In addition, these vehicles produce no CO2.  <br />One would think that the Miami Beach administration would embrace such an efficient and environmentally friendly form of transportation. This is not the case. For some reason or other the city of Miami Beach believes that pedicabs pose a risk to public’s safety. <br />I sincerely hope that through forms like this, we can get a critical mass of young, visionary, and intelligent residents together to prove to our city administrators that we can do better and create a more livable city that will attract people and businesses alike. Transportation plays central part to the livability of any city.  Hopefully we can get our Public Official to see this before our city, which we love so much, comes to a complete standstill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sharp</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/04/03/critical-miami-misses-the-point/#comment-6189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ai, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you look at a little differently, that economic argument you mention is already skewed. The whole point about supply and demand and the cost of parking is irrelevant because the cost of car ownership is already skewed toward wealthier, more affluent people. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a city like Miami, where over 1/4 of the population is poor and nearly 65% of renters pay &gt;30% of their median household income on housing (above the threshold for affordability), there is already a severe transportation equity problem if these people still feel the need to take on the additional financial burden of car ownership. When you go a step further and see that about 40% of the population is elderly (65+) or kids (-18), I hope you begin to see the problems with continuing to subsidize unimodalism. It's borderline discriminatory. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Therefore, policies that further subsidize this unimodal transportation imbalance (such as increasing or excessive minimum parking requirements) only continue to skew transportation inequity in favor of the wealthy over the poor. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course you are right, however, that expanding and improving our transit system is the other critical component of fixing the transport equity equation to be more egalitarian. Also, changes in land use policy (e.g. Miami 21) are important because they'll help the city become denser and more pedestrian-friendly with more mixed use zoning. This will improve accessibility by proximity, meaning that people will now be able to travel shorter distances (often feasible by foot or bike) to handle their employment, recreational, commercial, retail, and residential business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ai, </p>
<p>If you look at a little differently, that economic argument you mention is already skewed. The whole point about supply and demand and the cost of parking is irrelevant because the cost of car ownership is already skewed toward wealthier, more affluent people. </p>
<p>In a city like Miami, where over 1/4 of the population is poor and nearly 65% of renters pay >30% of their median household income on housing (above the threshold for affordability), there is already a severe transportation equity problem if these people still feel the need to take on the additional financial burden of car ownership. When you go a step further and see that about 40% of the population is elderly (65+) or kids (-18), I hope you begin to see the problems with continuing to subsidize unimodalism. It&#8217;s borderline discriminatory. </p>
<p>Therefore, policies that further subsidize this unimodal transportation imbalance (such as increasing or excessive minimum parking requirements) only continue to skew transportation inequity in favor of the wealthy over the poor. </p>
<p>Of course you are right, however, that expanding and improving our transit system is the other critical component of fixing the transport equity equation to be more egalitarian. Also, changes in land use policy (e.g. Miami 21) are important because they&#8217;ll help the city become denser and more pedestrian-friendly with more mixed use zoning. This will improve accessibility by proximity, meaning that people will now be able to travel shorter distances (often feasible by foot or bike) to handle their employment, recreational, commercial, retail, and residential business.</p>
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		<title>By: Blind Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/04/03/critical-miami-misses-the-point/#comment-6188</link>
		<dc:creator>Blind Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Gabe, very informative.  Like you, I moved to Miami and view this city as one with a HUGE amount of potential.  However, it seems like Miami is stuck in 1st gear.  Mass transit is a MAJOR problem here and my biggest gripe is that funding for PACs and baseball stadiums that benefit such a small portion of the population take precedent over things like mass transit that benefits everyone.  Here's looking forward to seeing whats in store in the years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Gabe, very informative.  Like you, I moved to Miami and view this city as one with a HUGE amount of potential.  However, it seems like Miami is stuck in 1st gear.  Mass transit is a MAJOR problem here and my biggest gripe is that funding for PACs and baseball stadiums that benefit such a small portion of the population take precedent over things like mass transit that benefits everyone.  Here&#8217;s looking forward to seeing whats in store in the years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/04/03/critical-miami-misses-the-point/#comment-6186</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support you guys at Transit Miami. There shouldn't be a need to start a war between the two blogs as we're all here to read and support Miami's growth, urbanity and public transit development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support you guys at Transit Miami. There shouldn&#8217;t be a need to start a war between the two blogs as we&#8217;re all here to read and support Miami&#8217;s growth, urbanity and public transit development.</p>
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		<title>By: AI</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/04/03/critical-miami-misses-the-point/#comment-6185</link>
		<dc:creator>AI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very strong economic argument that refutes your position.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here is an example that reflects what I mean:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Say you are a middle class resident that lives downtown in an affordable building and work in Miami Lakes. Now assume that as downtown is being increasingly developed, the marginal rate of parking capacity increase diminishes. Supply and demand would dictate that parking would become significantly more expensive. This middle class person would no longer be able to afford parking in the area where he lives. Parking and car ownership would become skewed towards the more affluent. There are no public transportation options for this person. He would be squeezed financially to find a way to get to work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Point is, before we restrict new parking supply, we must build out the public transportation system so that is actually has value. As it currently stands, it is worthless. After an effective, countywide system has been developed, then you can make the argument to restrict new parkign supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very strong economic argument that refutes your position.</p>
<p>Here is an example that reflects what I mean:</p>
<p>Say you are a middle class resident that lives downtown in an affordable building and work in Miami Lakes. Now assume that as downtown is being increasingly developed, the marginal rate of parking capacity increase diminishes. Supply and demand would dictate that parking would become significantly more expensive. This middle class person would no longer be able to afford parking in the area where he lives. Parking and car ownership would become skewed towards the more affluent. There are no public transportation options for this person. He would be squeezed financially to find a way to get to work.</p>
<p>Point is, before we restrict new parking supply, we must build out the public transportation system so that is actually has value. As it currently stands, it is worthless. After an effective, countywide system has been developed, then you can make the argument to restrict new parkign supply.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post about Critical Miami puzzled me because I had not read the original Critical Miami blog to which it responds. You could have said what you said in fewer words, but I am completely with you when it comes to your basic message and what Transit Miami is about. The post convinced me I don't need to know anything more about Critical Miami. Never heard of it before. But I am a big fan of Transit Miami.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post about Critical Miami puzzled me because I had not read the original Critical Miami blog to which it responds. You could have said what you said in fewer words, but I am completely with you when it comes to your basic message and what Transit Miami is about. The post convinced me I don&#8217;t need to know anything more about Critical Miami. Never heard of it before. But I am a big fan of Transit Miami.</p>
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