Comments on: Fort Coconut Grove http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/ Moving Together, Faster Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:18:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: serial catowner http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5849 serial catowner Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:47:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5849 Considering how many societies of the past have used walled neighborhoods, houses that face inward to a courtyard, and commercial-residential buildings presenting an essentially fortified face to the street, I find the analysis offered here to lack sophistication.<br/><br/>Simply "being open" to a street that consists mainly of idlers and automobile traffic offers...what? The broad open sense of the prairies? An invitation to come up on the porch and 'set awhile'?<br/><br/>Seattle used to prohibit hedges or walls that a burglar could hide behind. The result was no asset to the city or the property owner. The monotonous front yards were usually neglected, as they were of no benefit to the property owner. Repealing that ordnance let homeowners improve their front yards, and building fences encouraged the use of the front yard as an outdoor space. The neighborhoods today seem much more interactive than they did 30 years ago. Considering how many societies of the past have used walled neighborhoods, houses that face inward to a courtyard, and commercial-residential buildings presenting an essentially fortified face to the street, I find the analysis offered here to lack sophistication.

Simply “being open” to a street that consists mainly of idlers and automobile traffic offers…what? The broad open sense of the prairies? An invitation to come up on the porch and ’set awhile’?

Seattle used to prohibit hedges or walls that a burglar could hide behind. The result was no asset to the city or the property owner. The monotonous front yards were usually neglected, as they were of no benefit to the property owner. Repealing that ordnance let homeowners improve their front yards, and building fences encouraged the use of the front yard as an outdoor space. The neighborhoods today seem much more interactive than they did 30 years ago.

]]> By: Duran http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5848 Duran Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:43:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5848 Hmmm... I guess my complex named itself appropriately: Gates at the Grove. I'm just off McDonald on Bird Ave. Hmmm… I guess my complex named itself appropriately: Gates at the Grove. I’m just off McDonald on Bird Ave.

]]> By: Dave http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5846 Dave Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:01:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5846 Miami21 would limit them to 3.5 feet. Its one the main things Miami Niehgborhoods United is upset about. <br/><br/>One of the funniest (and most wildly innacurate) documents I've ever read:<br/>http://www.miaminu.org/pdfs/OUTREACH/MNU%20M21%20Outreach%20082507.pdf<br/><br/>A quote: "And you cannot rebuild your wall if it is knocked down!" Oh the humanity. Miami21 would limit them to 3.5 feet. Its one the main things Miami Niehgborhoods United is upset about.

One of the funniest (and most wildly innacurate) documents I’ve ever read:
http://www.miaminu.org/pdfs/OUTREACH/MNU%20M21%20Outreach%20082507.pdf

A quote: “And you cannot rebuild your wall if it is knocked down!” Oh the humanity.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5845 Anonymous Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:46:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5845 Are there laws anywhere in Miami-Dade County that prohibit the construction of walls/gates around your house? They're just as bad as the houses that have bars over their windows. Why do people do that? Is not that dangerous, it's really not necessary. Are there laws anywhere in Miami-Dade County that prohibit the construction of walls/gates around your house? They’re just as bad as the houses that have bars over their windows. Why do people do that? Is not that dangerous, it’s really not necessary.

]]> By: Gabriel J. Lopez-Bernal http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5843 Gabriel J. Lopez-Bernal Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:59:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5843 That's where you are wrong. Creating these super-max prison like spaces only makes things worse. The key to deterring crime is make places which make criminals feel uncomfortable: lots of people, the sense of being watched, and open spaces. These ridiculous fortification do nothing but make the Grove further inhospitable... That’s where you are wrong. Creating these super-max prison like spaces only makes things worse. The key to deterring crime is make places which make criminals feel uncomfortable: lots of people, the sense of being watched, and open spaces. These ridiculous fortification do nothing but make the Grove further inhospitable…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5842 Anonymous Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:41:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2008/01/31/fort-coconut-grove/#comment-5842 Anyone that lives or has lived in the grove knows the zombie crack heads will snatch up anything not bolted to the ground. Any amount of deterence is neccesary to keep them at bay. Anyone that lives or has lived in the grove knows the zombie crack heads will snatch up anything not bolted to the ground. Any amount of deterence is neccesary to keep them at bay.

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