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	<title>Comments on: Travels Through Europe, Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's one little problem with the observation that cars and trolleys didn't interfere -- it goes against the observed reality of light rail in America. One big difference is that in other countries, light rail lines in dense urban areas DON'T usually run down the middle of busy 6-8 lane roads with bumper to bumper traffic. They run down the middle of otherwise-quiet RESIDENTIAL streets a block away (streets like Pennsylvania Avenue in Miami Beach), where there isn't a lot of traffic to begin with, and the streets themselves are basically residential parking lots. Or commercial streets that are more like Lincoln Road than Bird Road. I shudder to think of what blindly running a trolley down the middle of Kendall Drive or NW 103 St/W 49th Street would do to traffic on the road.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just to give a great Miami example, a trolley along Coral Way would be a complete disaster -- forcing either the destruction of the trees that make it special, or eliminating the on-street parking that facilitates casual customers for many businesses along the road (ie, people running into Subway to pick up an order or going to the ATM at a bank). A trolley down the middle of the residential street a block south would probably be a brilliant idea, especially if the street were rezoned to allow 4-story townhomes (like the Lincoln Park area of Chicago). The problem is, in Dade County, the current single-family homeowners along the road would bitch, and the trolley would end up running down Coral Way anyway (or, knowing Dade County, would end up eliminating onstreet parking, but some idiot in charge would decide to cut the trees down anyway to make room for the construction crews to work), and everyone would end up miserable -- hot treeless pedestrians, gridlocked drivers, and low-rent pawnshops that moved in because all the upscale businesses would have fled the newly-blighted gridlock in disgust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one little problem with the observation that cars and trolleys didn&#8217;t interfere &#8212; it goes against the observed reality of light rail in America. One big difference is that in other countries, light rail lines in dense urban areas DON&#8217;T usually run down the middle of busy 6-8 lane roads with bumper to bumper traffic. They run down the middle of otherwise-quiet RESIDENTIAL streets a block away (streets like Pennsylvania Avenue in Miami Beach), where there isn&#8217;t a lot of traffic to begin with, and the streets themselves are basically residential parking lots. Or commercial streets that are more like Lincoln Road than Bird Road. I shudder to think of what blindly running a trolley down the middle of Kendall Drive or NW 103 St/W 49th Street would do to traffic on the road.</p>
<p>Just to give a great Miami example, a trolley along Coral Way would be a complete disaster &#8212; forcing either the destruction of the trees that make it special, or eliminating the on-street parking that facilitates casual customers for many businesses along the road (ie, people running into Subway to pick up an order or going to the ATM at a bank). A trolley down the middle of the residential street a block south would probably be a brilliant idea, especially if the street were rezoned to allow 4-story townhomes (like the Lincoln Park area of Chicago). The problem is, in Dade County, the current single-family homeowners along the road would bitch, and the trolley would end up running down Coral Way anyway (or, knowing Dade County, would end up eliminating onstreet parking, but some idiot in charge would decide to cut the trees down anyway to make room for the construction crews to work), and everyone would end up miserable &#8212; hot treeless pedestrians, gridlocked drivers, and low-rent pawnshops that moved in because all the upscale businesses would have fled the newly-blighted gridlock in disgust.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4329</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't even know what its like to travel or commute and not worry about traffic or safety, whether abroad or locally. I can only dream of a NYC transit system or one from Europe. How I long for this...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good Job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even know what its like to travel or commute and not worry about traffic or safety, whether abroad or locally. I can only dream of a NYC transit system or one from Europe. How I long for this&#8230;</p>
<p>Good Job!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Emilio + Miami Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4327</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Emilio + Miami Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That first picture blew me away! Nice photography on that...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Though even I admit this station was cleaner than most, it was interesting to look down at the tracks and not see the usual litter, sewage, and congregation of rodents which is typical of any subway system in the United States. Like the honor system, citizens here know to deposit trash in the appropriate receptacles rather than all along the station platform or tracks."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After experiencing New York's subways, I have to see this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That first picture blew me away! Nice photography on that&#8230;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Though even I admit this station was cleaner than most, it was interesting to look down at the tracks and not see the usual litter, sewage, and congregation of rodents which is typical of any subway system in the United States. Like the honor system, citizens here know to deposit trash in the appropriate receptacles rather than all along the station platform or tracks.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>After experiencing New York&#8217;s subways, I have to see this!</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel J. Lopez-Bernal</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4325</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel J. Lopez-Bernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After experiencing this...You'd feel even worse...I do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After experiencing this&#8230;You&#8217;d feel even worse&#8230;I do!</p>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4324</link>
		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this, you can't imagine how crappy i feel about our own transit system. damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this, you can&#8217;t imagine how crappy i feel about our own transit system. damn.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4322</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Los Angeles Metro also works on honor system ($200 fines to arrest if caught w/o ticket).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We are so far behind in public transit here. We have to beg for a single line of streetcar and those cities have multiple lines...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los Angeles Metro also works on honor system ($200 fines to arrest if caught w/o ticket).</p>
<p>We are so far behind in public transit here. We have to beg for a single line of streetcar and those cities have multiple lines&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The honor system is in use on some mass transit systems.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The light rail in Hudson county NJ works on that principal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The honor system is in use on some mass transit systems.</p>
<p>The light rail in Hudson county NJ works on that principal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/03/21/travels-through-europe-part-2/#comment-4320</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome work, Gabe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome work, Gabe.</p>
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