Comments on: Miami Transportation Planning; Part 1 http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/ Moving Together, Faster Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:36:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4406 Anonymous Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:17:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4406 I disagree with the naysayers.<br/><br/>The Miami streetcar will work because people will keep coming and the traffic will only get worse. To maintain the city's economic competitiveness and quality of life, some kind of streetcar will need to be contemplated and rolled-out.<br/><br/>If it works for Portland and Denver, why should it not work for us? I disagree with the naysayers.

The Miami streetcar will work because people will keep coming and the traffic will only get worse. To maintain the city’s economic competitiveness and quality of life, some kind of streetcar will need to be contemplated and rolled-out.

If it works for Portland and Denver, why should it not work for us?

]]> By: Sandra De La http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4167 Sandra De La Sat, 03 Feb 2007 06:35:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4167 A rail based streetcar seems dead in the water. We are told the per ride cost might be $30. That is a $20 Mil per year expense. Who can afford another $300+ Mil construction boondoggle? <br /><br />Buses would work. A rail based streetcar seems dead in the water. We are told the per ride cost might be $30. That is a $20 Mil per year expense. Who can afford another $300+ Mil construction boondoggle?

Buses would work.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4160 Anonymous Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:52:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4160 The so-called $200+ Mil Streetcar is really a $350+ Mil boondoogle. With cost overruns and change orders whatever costs you expect will double. Trolley type buses on wheels would be much better at 20% the cost. And since the proposed route is mostly along NW 2nd Avenue ridership might be so small each trip will cost $30. One way.<br /><br />The City of Miami is broke. The County is losing money to dozens of scams. The State of Florida is trying to reduce its tax revenues. Who can afford a rail based streetcar that might have but dozens of riders? The so-called $200+ Mil Streetcar is really a $350+ Mil boondoogle. With cost overruns and change orders whatever costs you expect will double. Trolley type buses on wheels would be much better at 20% the cost. And since the proposed route is mostly along NW 2nd Avenue ridership might be so small each trip will cost $30. One way.

The City of Miami is broke. The County is losing money to dozens of scams. The State of Florida is trying to reduce its tax revenues. Who can afford a rail based streetcar that might have but dozens of riders?

]]> By: madeindade http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4157 madeindade Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:01:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4157 I hate to sound cynical, but I stopped reading at 'visionary'... Miami, especially in planning is anything but and our political 'leaders' are of no help at either the city or county level - but you knew that already. BTW, our new strong mayor is as invisible as he as always been... I hate to sound cynical, but I stopped reading at ‘visionary’… Miami, especially in planning is anything but and our political ‘leaders’ are of no help at either the city or county level - but you knew that already. BTW, our new strong mayor is as invisible as he as always been…

]]> By: Andrew http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4156 Andrew Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:01:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4156 I believe that the streetcar is a good idea but would have problems because it doesn't have its own ROW. In order for transit to be affective in such a dense area it needs to have its own ROW. You will always have people who would want to drive around the downtown area even if there is terrific transit. Once people start seeing that they are going to be stuck in the same traffic as driving their car then they'll probably start using their car or just walk. Transit needs its own ROW. I believe that the streetcar is a good idea but would have problems because it doesn’t have its own ROW. In order for transit to be affective in such a dense area it needs to have its own ROW. You will always have people who would want to drive around the downtown area even if there is terrific transit. Once people start seeing that they are going to be stuck in the same traffic as driving their car then they’ll probably start using their car or just walk. Transit needs its own ROW.

]]> By: Steven http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4155 Steven Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:58:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4155 Personally, I think it would be great to extend metromover somehow out to Key Biscayne Personally, I think it would be great to extend metromover somehow out to Key Biscayne

]]> By: Dave8721 http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4154 Dave8721 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:28:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4154 I was thinking you could extend the red line that goes along Biscayne south over the Brickell Ave bridge, down Brickell until it crosses Bayshore then follow Bayshore south into the Grove, then maybe up 37th back to Douglas Metrorail station... I was thinking you could extend the red line that goes along Biscayne south over the Brickell Ave bridge, down Brickell until it crosses Bayshore then follow Bayshore south into the Grove, then maybe up 37th back to Douglas Metrorail station…

]]> By: Ryan http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4153 Ryan Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:10:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4153 I would've probably used the same alignments as you did here. Additionally, though, I think you've got to have a line of some sort going north-south from the intermodal center to coconut grove via 37th ave. I would’ve probably used the same alignments as you did here. Additionally, though, I think you’ve got to have a line of some sort going north-south from the intermodal center to coconut grove via 37th ave.

]]> By: Gabriel J. Lopez-Bernal http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4152 Gabriel J. Lopez-Bernal Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:54:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4152 Yeah, if you notice, I didn't complete any of the routes, just a general idea of where they should be headed... Yeah, if you notice, I didn’t complete any of the routes, just a general idea of where they should be headed…

]]> By: Steven http://www.transitmiami.com/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4151 Steven Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:26:00 +0000 http://www.evolvemiami.org/transitmiami/2007/01/31/miami-transportation-planning-part-1/#comment-4151 Why not extend that hospital route west a couple miles more to the Intermodal Center? Why not extend that hospital route west a couple miles more to the Intermodal Center?

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